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Do I need to worry about seasoning when rehabbing? Subscribe to Do I need to worry about seasoning when rehabbing? 12 posts by 6 users Signup Minna R. Real Estate Consultant Tolland, Connecticut Member since Jan '08 N1420892947_14361_6260_forum_avatar 658 Posts 251 Influence 2 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 02/28/2007 at 01:32PM The following users voted for this post: I am not keeping the property, just selling it. I bought for 162 2 weeks ago, will be marketing for 250 range in 2-3 weeks. Will prospect buyers have a problem with their banks lending on my property due to seasoning issues, or is this not something to worry about ? Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM Jim G. Residential Real Estate Agent Ohio Member since Jan '08 Me_forum_avatar 558 Posts 74 Influence 2 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 02/28/2007 at 11:07PM The following users voted for this post: Only if they try to get a conforming loan on it. The new programs will kick out the house they may need to go with specialty lending. Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM Minna R. Real Estate Consultant Tolland, Connecticut Member since Jan '08 N1420892947_14361_6260_forum_avatar 658 Posts 251 Influence 2 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 03/01/2007 at 12:51AM The following users voted for this post: How?..With a regular bank loan, when the people called my ad. My bank appraised the house at 190 as-is at the time, if that makes any difference. Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM Ryan W. Real Estate Investor Amarillo, Texas Member since Jan '08 Bust_forum_avatar 1811 Posts 4420 Influence 7 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 03/03/2007 at 02:33PM The following users voted for this post: Seasoning requirements are an issue for a rehabber. All FHA loans require at least 90 days seasoning (seller must own it for that long), and if there is less than 6 months seasoning then 2 appraisals are required. Some conventional lenders are taking on the same requirements. I wasn't aware that all conforming loans require it, as Jim stated. Conforming is if the note is to be resold on the secondary mortgage market the secondary market will require it to " conform" to certain standards. I think it might depend on what type of loan it is. There are different stipulations for different types of loans. Your typical conventional loan for a homeowner will most likely have seasoning requirements on it. I would recommend that YOU start shopping around for different mortage brokers/lenders that don't have seasoning requirements. You can then refer your potential buyers to these lenders if their lender has seasoning requirements. Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM Minna R. Real Estate Consultant Tolland, Connecticut Member since Jan '08 N1420892947_14361_6260_forum_avatar 658 Posts 251 Influence 2 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 03/04/2007 at 01:15PM The following users voted for this post: Ok - when I think " conventional" , or " conforming" I see lots of money down, verified income, good debt to income ratios, one fixed single loan. Aren't most loans non-conforming nowadays, anyway? Or is my view of conforming way off? Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM Ryan W. Real Estate Investor Amarillo, Texas Member since Jan '08 Bust_forum_avatar 1811 Posts 4420 Influence 7 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 03/04/2007 at 01:27PM The following users voted for this post: If it isn't a commercial loan or hard money, then its pretty much conventional, FHA, or VA. Conventional financing is probably over 70% of all loans. 5% down is typical but 100% financing is very common, also. Stated income is still conventional, and ARM's are too. They're all sold on the secondary " conforming" market. The only thing that isn't normally sold on the secondary is a bank's commercial loans. That is unless the loan is through one of the bigger lenders (Wells Fargo, Bank of America, etc.). They would probably keep all their loans, but they will still conform to the secondary standards. Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM watapolice Member since Aug '08 No_avatar_forum_avatar 16 Posts 1 Award Icon_minipost Posted: 03/06/2007 at 03:37AM The following users voted for this post: How do you get around the seasoning requirements - since the idea is trying to off load the property as quickly as possible? Can you do a shorterm Lease option, collect a large down payment and have the prospective buyers move into the house while the loan process is trodding along? Who has a list of lenders who do not require seasoning? Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:24AM Ryan W. Real Estate Investor Amarillo, Texas Member since Jan '08 Bust_forum_avatar 1811 Posts 4420 Influence 7 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 03/07/2007 at 04:57PM The following users voted for this post: I get around it by wholesaling. Grin I pretty much only sell to investors, and they have to have cash, hard money, or a commercial loan. Most of the rehabbers I know just end up eating it in holding costs until the seasoning is up, but obviously as you seem to already have caught on, there are other creative options. With each of the options there are advantages and disadvantages. Any option where you are moving the person into the property before you get your money in full could possibly lead to a vacant house that needs to be rehabbed again. Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:25AM Imentor Member since Aug '08 No_avatar_forum_avatar 9 Posts Icon_minipost Posted: 03/08/2007 at 09:35AM The following users voted for this post: watapolice, I tried that and my loan got kicked back too. you could try to create a note and sell the note at closing or shortly thereafter. You may have to discount it some, but it may not be more than what your holding costs would have been. Good Luck Rick Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:25AM Minna R. Real Estate Consultant Tolland, Connecticut Member since Jan '08 N1420892947_14361_6260_forum_avatar 658 Posts 251 Influence 2 Awards Icon_minipost Posted: 03/08/2007 at 11:12AM The following users voted for this post: So what are we talking about here? I can't close again til after three months (doable) or I can't close again for six (NOT COOL). Or i just make " no sesoning requirements" an absolute necessity. Or I do some kind of buy owner financed til seasoning kicks in? Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:25AM Imentor Member since Aug '08 No_avatar_forum_avatar 9 Posts Icon_minipost Posted: 03/08/2007 at 11:40AM The following users voted for this post: Minna, In most cases you will probably have to wait 90 days. This does not mean hoever, that you can't take a large (non-refundable) option fee from your buyer before the loan closes. Good luck, Rick Edited: 06/26/2010 at 10:25AM Signup Use of these forums constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Terms of Service. 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